Nadene Goldfoot
Pathans in Jerusalem
Israel is planning to finance a rare genetic study to see if there is a link between the lost tribes of Israel and the Pashtun tribe who has become the Taliban in Afghanistan. Shalva Weil, anthropologist is a senior researcher at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and tells us this. However, interest in this is lessening. The Pashtuns are not interested in it, and Israelis are also losing interest.
The theory of Pashtun descent from Israelites is being studied by Navras Aafreedi and Shahnaz Ali of India. They tell us that the "Pathans, or Pashtuns, are the only ones in the world possibly descended from the lost tribes of Israel. The evidence is mentioned from the 10th century to today, written by Jewish, Christian and Muslim writers, both religious and secularists. A Muslim, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, wrote a book titled "Jesus in India" in which says that Afghans, Pashtuns and Pathans are descended from the Tribes of Israel. His proof is that Kish had 5 sons, of which one was Irmia Jeremia,. Afghana had descended from him. Qais Abdur Rasheed was a descendant of King Saul whose original name was Kish. He had met Muhammad and became Muslim. All of the tribes in Afghanistan are descendants of him.
It all started with Jacob who was renamed as "Israel." His first son was Joseph from Rachel, who had 2 sons, Ephraim and Menashe. Through Jacob's 2 wives and 2 concubines, he also had Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, Dan, Naphitali, Gad, Asher, and Joseph's full brother, Benjamin. When land was divided between the tribes, Levi was to be a tribe of teachers and were given no land, but Ephraim and Menashe got shares. All should have the same Ydna. Through time, there will be mutations, but scientists should be able to connect them to the present descendants. The Telegraph comments that they may be from the tribe of Ephriam, captured and taken away in around 700 BCE.
The Pashtuns or Pathans, as they are called, live in Northern Pakistan and Afghanistan. They are made up of 60 Pushto-speaking tribes numbering 8 million in Afghanistan and 10 million in Pakistan. If they are the remnant of 10 Tribes, they seem to have multiplied very well without suffering from any discrimination such as the tribes of Judea and Israel did.
The 2nd President of Israel, Itzhak Ben-Zvi wrote "The Exiled and the Redeemed" in 1957. He stated that Hebrew migrations into Afghanistan began with a few exiles from Samaria transplanted there by the King of Assyria, Shalmaneser, in 719 BC. There are references in the "Book of Esther" to the 127 dominions of King Ahasuerus of Persia, and that eastern Afghanistan could have been one of them. Though they are Muslim today, they still have the tradition of descending from the 10 Tribes. " Josephus, the Jewish-Roman historian of the first century CE, describes Israelite Tribes living beyond the Euphrates river in inaccessible lands to the East."
"A genetic study concluded from Y-chromosome analysis (male line) that Samaritans descend from the Israelites (including Kohanim, or priests), and mitochondrial DNA (female line) analysis shows descent from Assyrians and other foreign women, effectively validating both local and foreign origins for the Samaritans." Judea and Samaria lie in what Jordanians have named as "The West Bank", being it is land west of the Jordan River.
Afghan tribes are Muslim but have biblical names that are seen in the Torah. A variation of DNA between Afghans and Jewish groups of Iranians, Arabs, Iraqis and even Ashkenazi is seen as mingling their DNA with local non semitic groups of peoples.
Dr. Aafreedi, Indian historian, did a genetic study on the Afridi clan of Pashtuns in Malihabad, India. It was found that 650 out of the 1,500 members had dna similar to genetic dna found in Jews. That's less than half of the members were connected to Jews. The Ydna haplogroup G2C has been found in 7% of Ashkenazi Jews and in the Pashuns. Tudor Pafitt also did tests on Pashuns in India.
Research shows a relationship between Afghan (Pashun) and Jewish (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrahi) DNA and also that Afghan DNA is 2nd closest (68.1) to Ashkenazi DNA after Irani and Iraq Jews (67.9). Most of this research used Yusufzai, Afridi or Khattak samples from Pakistan and India. Scientists can draw inferences about Afghan DNA in general from this.
Rare genetic disease shows a common origin. Inclusion body myopathy has been found among Afghans (Pashtuns), Iranian Jews and Ashkenazis. This indicates a common founder mutation. This is a disease in which muscular weakness is a rare genetic disorder which is localized to Jewish populations. Most known patients are Iranian Jews, with a few originating from Pashtuns of Afghanistan. The high frequency is due to a founder mutation (GNE, M712T) from Nature Genet 29:83-87, 2001. Another genetic disease common to both Pashtuns and Jews is the disease Glucose 6 Phosphate Dehydrogenase deficiency. "G6PDH is common to Jews from Kurdistan, Iraq, Iran, Yemen and in Afghans/Pashtuns."
After over 3,000 years, we see the irony that Pathans are the ones who would reject Israel being they have this relationship. They have said that they want to be the ones doing the test, or a 3rd party. Probably most Jews would scream, "Oy vey" at the discovery as well. When you think about it, though, the 10 Lost Tribes had to go somewhere, but not too far. This group has the oral history of the connection, and DNA is showing that they indeed have a connection to Jews. Israelis are saying, Oy, vah, ah, voy! Such cousins!
2/9/12 The latest report on the Pashtuns is that up to now they are not one of the lost tribes of Israel.
Update: 5/11/12 On saying that Pathans reject Israel most ferociously, I realize I was being too harsh. It's that the Muslim Brotherhood rejects Israel most feriociously with the religious leader, Qaradwi of Qatar calling for a fatwa against all Jews. Being the Taliban comes from the Pashtuns and are so ferocious, I used the term incorrectly. I have also seen them team up with Al Qaeda in Lebanon as well, though. Iran will plan to use them as insurgants in the area. A lot of science is being neglected due to this unfriendly stand in the Middle East.
Resource: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Pashtun_descent_from_Israelites
http://www.yespakistan.com/hdf/Mardan/pathans.asp
http://www.cohen-levi.org/the_tribe/tribes_of_israel.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Lost_Tribes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaria
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/6967224/Taliban-may-be-descended-from-Jews.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_G2c_(Y-DNA)
http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/GeneWatch/GeneWatchPage.aspx?pageId=237 Most interesting
http://www.familytreedna.com/
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/92443/war-papers/?utm_source=Tablet+Magazine+List&utm_campaign=95f95ce783-February_29_20122_29_2012&utm_medium=email Jews in Afghanistan
www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ejhg201259a.html Afghanistan from a Y chromosome perspective
Pathans in Jerusalem
Israel is planning to finance a rare genetic study to see if there is a link between the lost tribes of Israel and the Pashtun tribe who has become the Taliban in Afghanistan. Shalva Weil, anthropologist is a senior researcher at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem and tells us this. However, interest in this is lessening. The Pashtuns are not interested in it, and Israelis are also losing interest.
The theory of Pashtun descent from Israelites is being studied by Navras Aafreedi and Shahnaz Ali of India. They tell us that the "Pathans, or Pashtuns, are the only ones in the world possibly descended from the lost tribes of Israel. The evidence is mentioned from the 10th century to today, written by Jewish, Christian and Muslim writers, both religious and secularists. A Muslim, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, wrote a book titled "Jesus in India" in which says that Afghans, Pashtuns and Pathans are descended from the Tribes of Israel. His proof is that Kish had 5 sons, of which one was Irmia Jeremia,. Afghana had descended from him. Qais Abdur Rasheed was a descendant of King Saul whose original name was Kish. He had met Muhammad and became Muslim. All of the tribes in Afghanistan are descendants of him.
It all started with Jacob who was renamed as "Israel." His first son was Joseph from Rachel, who had 2 sons, Ephraim and Menashe. Through Jacob's 2 wives and 2 concubines, he also had Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, Dan, Naphitali, Gad, Asher, and Joseph's full brother, Benjamin. When land was divided between the tribes, Levi was to be a tribe of teachers and were given no land, but Ephraim and Menashe got shares. All should have the same Ydna. Through time, there will be mutations, but scientists should be able to connect them to the present descendants. The Telegraph comments that they may be from the tribe of Ephriam, captured and taken away in around 700 BCE.
The Pashtuns or Pathans, as they are called, live in Northern Pakistan and Afghanistan. They are made up of 60 Pushto-speaking tribes numbering 8 million in Afghanistan and 10 million in Pakistan. If they are the remnant of 10 Tribes, they seem to have multiplied very well without suffering from any discrimination such as the tribes of Judea and Israel did.
The 2nd President of Israel, Itzhak Ben-Zvi wrote "The Exiled and the Redeemed" in 1957. He stated that Hebrew migrations into Afghanistan began with a few exiles from Samaria transplanted there by the King of Assyria, Shalmaneser, in 719 BC. There are references in the "Book of Esther" to the 127 dominions of King Ahasuerus of Persia, and that eastern Afghanistan could have been one of them. Though they are Muslim today, they still have the tradition of descending from the 10 Tribes. " Josephus, the Jewish-Roman historian of the first century CE, describes Israelite Tribes living beyond the Euphrates river in inaccessible lands to the East."
"A genetic study concluded from Y-chromosome analysis (male line) that Samaritans descend from the Israelites (including Kohanim, or priests), and mitochondrial DNA (female line) analysis shows descent from Assyrians and other foreign women, effectively validating both local and foreign origins for the Samaritans." Judea and Samaria lie in what Jordanians have named as "The West Bank", being it is land west of the Jordan River.
Afghan tribes are Muslim but have biblical names that are seen in the Torah. A variation of DNA between Afghans and Jewish groups of Iranians, Arabs, Iraqis and even Ashkenazi is seen as mingling their DNA with local non semitic groups of peoples.
Dr. Aafreedi, Indian historian, did a genetic study on the Afridi clan of Pashtuns in Malihabad, India. It was found that 650 out of the 1,500 members had dna similar to genetic dna found in Jews. That's less than half of the members were connected to Jews. The Ydna haplogroup G2C has been found in 7% of Ashkenazi Jews and in the Pashuns. Tudor Pafitt also did tests on Pashuns in India.
Research shows a relationship between Afghan (Pashun) and Jewish (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrahi) DNA and also that Afghan DNA is 2nd closest (68.1) to Ashkenazi DNA after Irani and Iraq Jews (67.9). Most of this research used Yusufzai, Afridi or Khattak samples from Pakistan and India. Scientists can draw inferences about Afghan DNA in general from this.
Rare genetic disease shows a common origin. Inclusion body myopathy has been found among Afghans (Pashtuns), Iranian Jews and Ashkenazis. This indicates a common founder mutation. This is a disease in which muscular weakness is a rare genetic disorder which is localized to Jewish populations. Most known patients are Iranian Jews, with a few originating from Pashtuns of Afghanistan. The high frequency is due to a founder mutation (GNE, M712T) from Nature Genet 29:83-87, 2001. Another genetic disease common to both Pashtuns and Jews is the disease Glucose 6 Phosphate Dehydrogenase deficiency. "G6PDH is common to Jews from Kurdistan, Iraq, Iran, Yemen and in Afghans/Pashtuns."
After over 3,000 years, we see the irony that Pathans are the ones who would reject Israel being they have this relationship. They have said that they want to be the ones doing the test, or a 3rd party. Probably most Jews would scream, "Oy vey" at the discovery as well. When you think about it, though, the 10 Lost Tribes had to go somewhere, but not too far. This group has the oral history of the connection, and DNA is showing that they indeed have a connection to Jews. Israelis are saying, Oy, vah, ah, voy! Such cousins!
2/9/12 The latest report on the Pashtuns is that up to now they are not one of the lost tribes of Israel.
Update: 5/11/12 On saying that Pathans reject Israel most ferociously, I realize I was being too harsh. It's that the Muslim Brotherhood rejects Israel most feriociously with the religious leader, Qaradwi of Qatar calling for a fatwa against all Jews. Being the Taliban comes from the Pashtuns and are so ferocious, I used the term incorrectly. I have also seen them team up with Al Qaeda in Lebanon as well, though. Iran will plan to use them as insurgants in the area. A lot of science is being neglected due to this unfriendly stand in the Middle East.
Resource: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Pashtun_descent_from_Israelites
http://www.yespakistan.com/hdf/Mardan/pathans.asp
http://www.cohen-levi.org/the_tribe/tribes_of_israel.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Lost_Tribes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaria
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/6967224/Taliban-may-be-descended-from-Jews.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_G2c_(Y-DNA)
http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/GeneWatch/GeneWatchPage.aspx?pageId=237 Most interesting
http://www.familytreedna.com/
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/92443/war-papers/?utm_source=Tablet+Magazine+List&utm_campaign=95f95ce783-February_29_20122_29_2012&utm_medium=email Jews in Afghanistan
www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ejhg201259a.html Afghanistan from a Y chromosome perspective
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Vladimir GurianovQ yDNA Haplogroup Project-on facebook-
Afghanistan from a Y-chromosome perspective // European Journal of Human Genetics , (18 April 2012) | doi:10.1038/ejhg.2012.59
Lacau et al.
Central Asia has served as a corridor for human migrations providing trading routes since ancient times. It has functioned as a conduit connecting Europe and the Middle East with South Asia and far Eastern civilizations. Therefore, the study of populations i...n this region is essential for a comprehensive understanding of early human dispersal on the Eurasian continent. Although Y- chromosome distributions in Central Asia have been widely surveyed, present-day Afghanistan remains poorly characterized genetically. The present study addresses this lacuna by analyzing 190 Pathan males from Afghanistan using high-resolution Y-chromosome binary markers. In addition, haplotype diversity for its most common lineages (haplogroups R1a1a*-M198 and L3-M357) was estimated using a set of 15 Y-specific STR loci. The observed haplogroup distribution suggests some degree of genetic isolation of the northern population, likely due to the Hindu Kush mountain range separating it from the southern Afghans who have had greater contact with neighboring Pathans from Pakistan and migrations from the Indian subcontinent. Our study demonstrates genetic similarities between Pathans from Afghanistan and Pakistan, both of which are characterized by the predominance of haplogroup R1a1a*-M198 (>50%) and the sharing of the same modal haplotype. Furthermore, the high frequencies of R1a1a-M198 and the presence of G2c-M377 chromosomes in Pathans might represent phylogenetic signals from Khazars, a common link between Pathans and Ashkenazi groups, whereas the absence of E1b1b1a2-V13 lineage does not support their professed Greek ancestry.
Albert Benhamou from facebook- 1:14pm Apr 18
Arif - the origin of the Jewish descent of the Pathans comes from Afghan historians themselves: we could cite the book Makhzan-i-Afghani (1612) mentioning that the Afghan Royal family of his time considered themselves of Jewish Tribe descent, getting it from a very old tradition. Other studies of the 20th century focused on traditions kept among Pathans that could only have originated from Jewish customs. I am not sure how many of these traditions still exist today but, at the time, those of Jewish origins were: the way men grow sidelocks, the circumcision being done on the 8th day (not like Muslims do), four-cornered garments (fringes reminiscent of Jewish talits), some wedding customs being closer to Jews than to Muslims, Levirate marriage (when a man dies, his brother must marry his widow to pursue his brother's lineage), some food observances (what to eat or not to eat, what to mix or not), Hebrew names (like derived from Israel, Samuel, etc not particularly found in other Muslims customs), etc etc. I assume however that, with time passing, most of these customs would get forgotten and absorbed in modern traditions; as for historical facts, it is well known that King Cyrus from Assyria had a policy of establishing foreign captives at the outskirt of his empire, maybe as a buffer to invaders from the north; so naturally, all Jews taken from the Kingdom of Israel were "displaced" to the northern outskirt of Assyria and moved along from there into Asia etc
Cyrus was a Persian, not an Assyrian. The Persians allowed subject peoples who had been displaced by the Babylonians and Assyrians to return to their native lands, thus the return to Israel under Ezra and Nehemiah. The Assyrians did indeed displace conquered peoples, or at least conquered aristocracy. After the fall of Assyria to Babylon, and then Babylon to Cyrus the Persian, decendants of the Israelites of the Northern Kingdom would apparently be free to migrate anywhere within the Persian Empire, which would include Afghanistan.
I am not a scientists so won't comment on the scientefic side,I am a Muslim pashtun from Pakistan and my father is a hitorian.Since we were kids we were told that we are bank Israel meaning children
Sorry mistyped I meant bani Israel,children/tribe of Israel and this is ALso mentioned in Qur'an and there is also a durst /chapter in Qur'an by the name of bani Israel.Apart from this there are quite alot of similarities in Jews and pashtuns like they have same body structures,color,eating habits like we pathans eat in painda meaning in groups and eat in the same big dish with hands and our eldrs told us they derived it from Jews,pashtuns like to burp aloud after their dinner etc and last but not least both Jews and pathan are the most talented nationsof world.
Pashtun dignity, I think Muslims and Jews share some eating habits such as not eating anything from a pig. Group eat with us would be our family, and our special meal on Friday nights which starts our Shabbat. The eating with hands, burping are not a part of our culture other than with our teen aged boys. Beni Israel means sons of Israel, and you just may be our long lost cousins. The question is, how do you view us being we are Jews not interested in converting to Islam? We would like to have friendship with all people, but I've bumped into a lot of hatred from other Pashtuns about my being Jewish.
No hatred I don't hate a Jew because his Jew no Islam does not teach me that I know maybe we are one back in the blood line but we have loyalty to Islam above all and as a common Jew I have nothing against you my hatred well be towards the oppressors among the Jew and cristians the people who are going after thier own interest over other humans and I hate even more out Muslim leaders whom have disgraced Muslims
My mom's Romanian and father a Pashtun from Pakistan. Personally i wont mind a Jewish connection at all because we believe in one God and don't worship an image of his. There's not much difference between a Muslim and a Jew. Quran says God can forgive anything except associating someone with him. That's why i feel sad when my christian relatives in Romania talk about trinity and stuff. There's one true religion, the religion of Abraham and the prophets before him that we should be following. As far as hate goes, its hard to like Zionists as much as it is to like Muslim fanatics, both corrupting God's way.
Sami,
A Zionist is simply a Jewish person or anyone else who supports the right for Jews to live in Israel. If you read about our history, Jews came back and reclaimed the land with all the legal priorities needed. The mandate was held by the British. They offered the Jewish Homeland to the Jews but wound up giving them only 20% of the original land planned for this, and they offered the Palestinians their state as well, but theh P. refused it and the Jews took what was offered to them. After 2,000 years of being persecuted in other lands, the Jews were in dire need of their own state once again.
I am Pashto-speaking Tajik, we have been living with Pashton Mohmand Baizai tribe for decades, and since then Mohmand Pashtons are our maternal uncle,like my dearest mother is Pashton, so my grand mother and grand grand mothers as we see linage. To my personal opinion Pashtons being Humans are the beautiful people inside and out. They love dignity and they hate injustice for that they fight till death, otherwise Peace is emphasized. Trust is the code of life.
The nation of Ibrahim(AS) were chosen people by Allah, they are Bani Isreal(Israilites) and Bani Ismail(Arabs). For thousands of years these nations were revolting against their ancestor's(Ibrahim (AS)) true religion. More specifically the revolts were made by Bani-Isreal numerous times. As I talked to my maternal grandfather about the Israeli fact, he replied his ancestors were no doubt Bani Israel. And every Pashton knows that and when you tell them about this,they smile and say it was so long long ago. Israel means Ishaq(AS) so to all muslims and non muslims never curse this name ever, as he was the true Prophet of Allah.
Now geographically Pashtons are surrounded by Persians, Tajiks, Indians, Ubeks etc. Now Tajiks, Persians, and Indians are Aryans or other prehistoric Native tribes. Pashton never associate themselves with any of them,nor claims to be the Natives of the lands they posses. They claim to be of higher class from all around, though they hate racial prosecution. If you live with them in peace they would love you as friend and brother,and would never mention their superiority and would be more humble.
Now the nation of Ibrahim(AS) is known for tribes. And Pashton is a dominant tribal Nation.
Some Pashtons get angry when you talk about Israelite origin, there is nothing to be scared about.
Thanks for reading.
Nadene,
It is true that we are son of bani israel (bani ishaq) and that king saul had a son afghana and that is where the name afghanistan comes from.
Of course we keep the judaic traditions and are very ancient israelite at heart , just read upon pashtoonwali.
We are also mention in the hadith like the tabut but the islamic one, that during end of times that children of israel will rise with 70000 strong army guided by Imam Madhi from khorasan (modern day afghanistan) and go and march to kill the AntiChrist.
Islam by itself is very close to orthodox Jews.
This article is just written making up facts, but is there evidence for those facts ? I'm pashtun and I don't think we descend from Israeli origin.
https://sites.google.com/site/armyofmahdi/israelis
checkout above for an interesting analysis of the topic
Actually, Pashtuns are aryanic, like Persians, but possible Jewish tribes. We have sub tribes, then clans, then sub clans, etc. There maybe a possibility since some pashtuns groups have intermingled with Turks (ghilzai), Persians (durrani) and Greeks (Afridi). And even that would represent a small percentage of those tribes, since each invader left a foot print. Finally, we are all linked by our language, (which is related to iranic), our race (proven to be close to persian) and most important our code of honor.
By reading your information about Pashtuns ad Lost Tribes of ISRAEL, i feel that actually we Pashtuns are Children of Israel coz we hate Aryans who are very cruel to us and we proud of our fore fathers. i am proud to be a Pashtun Israeli as we are the Chosen People of GOD ALLAH
http://www.shavei.org/category/communities/other_communities/asia/pathans-india/?lang=en, a website that is very up to date about Dr. Navras Aafreedi and Indian geneticisst Shahnaz ali doing DNA testing of Pashtuns. 650 Pathans claim to be descendents of the Lost Tribe of Ephraim, expelled by Assyrians over 2,000 years ago. Very interesting, a must read.
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