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Showing posts with label demands. Show all posts
Showing posts with label demands. Show all posts

Friday, March 14, 2014

The Domino Affect: What Kerry Said Caused a Crisis

Nadene Goldfoot                                                                      

                          The Tower of David in Jerusalem-The City of David

Israel has been facing 100 rockets to be rained down on Southern Israel just days before Purim, a happy festival of being alive after the threat of Haman setting into motion the slaughter of all Jews in the Persian Empire.  Sderot again has taken the brunt of the attack; an attack when homemakers and children were looking forward to this happy celebration. Other southern cities were in the line of fire as well.  The Chief Rabbi of Israel joined them during the attack.
                                                                 
                                         Sderot, the city that has been attacked with 100 rockets, a town founded in the Northern Negev in 1951 which was settled by new immigrants working in development industries.  In 1990 it had the population of 9,480.  It's close to Gaza.  Being Israel is only 8,000 sq miles, every piece of land has to be used.  Most all Israelis live in high rise apartment buildings, not homes such as Oregonians live in.  From 1949 to 1956, Arab terrorists, called fedayeen, trained and equipped by Egypt, repeatedly attacked Israeli civilians from bases in Gaza.  1,300 Israelis were killed or wounded in terrorist attacks throughout Israel.  Nasser was the head of Egypt in those days.
                                                                       
What brought about this sudden impulse to sock it to Israel?  Several things; one of which most likely was the capture of an Iranian ship with missiles that was to be delivered to the terrorists of Gaza.  This must have upset their big plans to hit Israel big-time.  Why did Iran decide to do this?  Why now?  Could it be that there is no strength coming from the USA and Europe over their goal for creating uranium arms when everyone knows they would use them on Israel?  They're calling the shots and the rest of the world is deaf and dumb about it, all except Netanyahu in Israel.   The USA is not the power it used to be.  Syria is not afraid and neither is Iran.  Egypt could not follow Obama's wishes to allow the Muslim Brotherhood to stay in power, even if it meant giving up money coming from the USA.  However Morsi had gotten himself voted in as president, the higher powers realized it could not continue or they would become a Muslim Brotherhood state.  

Other things set the terrorists' mind in motion for destruction, too.  Our state department in the USA is pushing hard to wind up an agreement between the Palestinian Arabs and Israel.  They even want to forgo the one need of Israel-and that is for the Palestinians to accept that Israel is in fact a Jewish state.  Update is that Kerry is telling all that recognition of Israel as a Jewish state is a mistake.  So I'll repeat why this is important again.

Israel  cannot be flooded with Muslims causing the inbalance of the government.  It was created to be a Jewish state.  That's what the League of Nations agreed to in the 20's  and so did the United Nations in 1948.  What has happened to Lebanon, who had the minority Christians in power and now are completely upended with their loss of power cannot happen in any way, shape or form to Israel.  This state of Israel, made up of legal minds both in the rabbinate and in the knesset, know what they need.  Otherwise, Israel doesn't have a chance.
                                                                     
Also, what the state department doesn't think of is that Fatah, the PA of Judea and Samaria are but one group to deal with who are vying for power in the future state of Palestine.  How can they ever forget Hamas, the power in Gaza, terrorists to the death, who swear they will never allow Israel to exist and whose charter is to destroy the tiny state.  Even Fatah will not allow even one Jew to live in their state.  Oh, Kerry condemns the massive rocket attack that just happened, but has worded his previous statements to almost cause it to happen.  Isn't he using the rocket fire to push Israel to concede to all the demands the PA has and negate their need to recognize it as a Jewish state?  Isn't he supposed to be only a negotiator, a mediator, bringing a deal to both  that they can live with?  This isn't happening.  He's gone over to the easiest side to bargain with; the Palestinians.  A mediator is to be in the middle, not offside.  He is to interpose between parties in order to reconcile them, to bring accord out of by action as an intermediary, to act as intermediary agent in bringing, effecting, or communicating.  It should have been an intervention between conflicting parties to promote reconciliation.  Since these parties are dealing with life and death matters where there is so much hatred on the side of the Palestinians, it must include a lot of background knowledge between the 2 parties.  As it stands now, it's impossible.  Here's why.

 Two things have to happen.  The Arabs must recognize Israel as a Jewish state and teach their people to accept this fact; in their homes, from their lips, in their textbooks, and to want peace more than they hate the Jews.  It's too bad Obama and Kerry didn't see this as a pre-requisite to peace.  They've been trying to put the cart before the horse.  It's not working.

Arutz Sheva has brought out the fact that both Fatah and Hamas must be in the picture.  Israel needs Abbas to agree to a demilitarized state which they don't want to do.  Even if he did, Hamas would continue to get rockets and missiles and mortars to use against Israel and guess who would be smuggling them into Gaza somehow?

Negotiations are fine between 2 parties that both want peace.  I don't see this happening here. The Palestinians are not peaceful people yet.   Fatah hooked up with Hamas several times already and only is separated right now because of the struggle for the throne; and Hamas did kick out Fatah and Abbas already from Gaza.  Like the rest of the Middle East, there is always a power struggle even among these like religious groups.  Kerry seems to be bewitched and bewildered by the Palestinian propaganda, but not bothered at all by it.  The Israeli Ministers are bring this to his attention.  They've asked him to condemn terror!!!  Now I ask, is this an unreasonable request?  I figure with some people you have to be very direct.

Update of update:  Kerry's digging a hole for himself telling Congress there's no need to have the Palestinans recognize Israel as a Jewish state because they've ALREADY DONE IT TWICE?    How come Netanayahu and the whole knesset doesn't know about it, then?  Sounds like a familiar story line he's told before about his wartime involvement.

Resource: Arutz Sheva; news@israelnationalnews.com A7 News:  Chief Rabbi Lau Visits Sderot Amid Rockets-Frustration at Peace Talks Grows as Rockets Continue by Tova Dvorin.
http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Kerry-says-Netanyahu-wrong-to-insist-Palestinians-recognize-Israel-as-Jewish-state-345341
The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia-Sderot
Israel 101 from StandwWithUs.
Update:  https://www.facebook.com/gail.hopke/posts/10152015447018807 Ministers tell kerry to have Palestinians stop attacking.  http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/178503
http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/12314/kerry-recognition-israel-jewish-state-mistake/?utm_source=Breaking+Israel+News&utm_campaign=a47fa7019d-BIN+Email&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b6d3627f72-a47fa7019d-83518689
http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/03/14/disturbed-rocker-david-draiman-curses-john-kerry-over-jewish-state-comments/
http://www.jerusalemonline.com/news/middle-east/israeli-palestinian-relations/kerry-there-is-no-need-to-keep-bringing-up-the-issue-of-recognition-for-a-jewish-state-4293
*Update:  http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/61761, A whiff of Perfidy, Victor Sharpe on Kerry

Saturday, January 25, 2014

Palestinian Demands from Israel for Peace

Nadene Goldfoot                                                                 

The Jewish Homeland of 1920's League of Nations giving Britain the Mandate to create it and suddenly in April 1921 the major part became Transjordan-Arab land which was 80% of the land.  It had become a British protectorate.  Then it became Jordan, an Arab state in March 1946. 2 years before Britain's mandate was finished and they departed from what was to be called Israel in May 1948.

The "Palestinian" Arabs want a state carved out of Israel, who were the Palestinian Jews.  They have not wavered one bit in their demands.  The Palestinian Arabs  are not a tribe, such as  Hashemites of Jordan were, who have been forced to take in many Palestinian Arabs.  They came from all the neighboring states of Israel.  They were created out of the bungling of England who held the mandate and who were given the order of creating the Jewish Homeland.  However, England had other ideas, and flooded Palestine with Arabs during the time when Jews, who were escaping from Germany's Hitler needed a safe haven and were denied entrance.
                                                                               
The 12 Tribes of Israel's designated section of Canaan when Joshua entered the land  in 1271 BCE.

Here's what the Palestinian Arabs continue to demand in their "peace" discussions with Kerry.

1.  The will not accept Israel as a Jewish state.

2. They will not accept the borders of 1967 created when all the Arab nations attacked Israel and lost.

3.  They will not accept any Israelis on Palestinian land or at border crossings and expect all Jews to get out of Judea and Samaria.  They keep saying it will be Judenrein!

4.  They demand the "right of return" for millions of Arab refugees and their descendants to ISRAEL.
                                                                     
                                                                       
Israel and  Judea-Samaria; to become Palestine through peace negotiations.  Called "West Bank" by Jordan. This leaves some of the narrow sections of Israel to be from 6 to 9 miles wide.

What part of  any one of these demands is not seen as asinine and impossible for Israel to agree to?
 Has Israel just lost a war we are not aware of and in the position of ceding everything they have struggled to have for the past 65 years?  

What the Palestinians have done after Israel left Gaza has been to have their own squabble as to who is their leader with Hamas terrorists winning that round and kicking out Fatah into Judea and Samaria.  They are a divided group to start with and did not abide by the peaceful terms of which Israel left Gaza.  That was for peace between the two entities.  It turned out to be just the opposite.

 The Arabs have bombarded southern Israel since 2001 with rockets, mortars and missiles.  They do not keep their word and are not a peaceful people.  Their agenda or charter is that of the Muslim Brotherhood of which Obama was promoting in the Cairo talk after becoming president.  He continued to favor them throughout the Arab Spring which took place in Egypt with Morsi, a Muslim Brotherhood president, was "elected."  He has withheld monies from Egypt due to their getting rid of Morsi, still showing favoritism for a group who are ready to wipe out Israel. This doesn't give much credence for Kerry being aware of all the pitfalls that the Palestinians are throwing at Israel.  My fear is that he is actually very much aware of the absurdity he is expecting just to make a name for himself as some sort of peace mediator.

No  one is more tired of the calamity of Palestinians wanting their own state, that being part of Israel, than Israel is.  We know that Europe and the USA are tired of the badgering of the past 65 years, but they are not in harm's way because of it.  Israel is.  Had England carried out the mandate as so expected in the first place and had showed some spine with the Palestinians, their warring would never had carried on for so long.  In fact, according to the efforts of research of  Joan Peters in her book, "From Time Immemorial," the British brought in more  Arabs.  They have not been shown the boot.  Whereas Jews had to wait 2,000 years to get their own land back once again, the surrounding nomadic Arabs were only thinking of having a land for the first time in 1967 at the encouragement of the Arab countries who failed to win their aggressive battle against Israel then when they attacked this fledgling state of determined people who put their faith in G-d to help them.

The Palestinians were offered the chance to have their own state by the British in 1948 and they have refused up to 1967.  That's when they tested the world and  called the shots, and they saw that they still had clout.  The world, so afraid of being shut out of an oil resource, is afraid to raise their voice to the Palestinians, who are backed by all their Arab brothers.   It's either that or the world is still so anti-Semitic that they can't see that Israel is being screwed again in these ridiculous peace talks that are going nowhere.  The first requirement for peace talks should be that the Palestinians are willing to accept Israel as a Jewish state.  That's it.  That's what it is.

Sadat came to Jerusalem and made peace between Egypt and Israel.  Jordan has been peaceful for the past 41 years.  There is no indication that the Palestinian Arabs even want to be peaceful.  They're still spokesmen for the Muslim Brotherhood who have not accepted peace with Jews.  Just look at their demands.

Reference:  http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/174909#.UuRJjdLTlkg  How to fight back when the media blames Israel for destroying peace talks.
FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL, by Joan Peters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transjordan

Friday, June 1, 2012

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Says to have Direct Negotiations Once Again

Nadene Goldfoot
Hillary Clinton is also pushing for the two parties of the Palestinian PA and Israel to take advantage of a new political opening and goodwill gestures to resume peace negotiations and said this on a visit to Denmark. Netanyahu asked the Palestinians in person at the UN in a full assembly meeting.  He was ignored.  He asked again to give peace a chance to work.

A goodwill gesture on Israel's part was the release of 91 terrorist bodies to the PA with more to come in the future from the many terrorist attacks in killing Israelis.  So far, it hasn't moved Abbas, though.  He did accept the "gestures," however. Hillary, on the other hand, is encouraged by Israel's new formation of their unity government and sees it as the best for several years who can reach a negotiated agreement.  So she's nudging again, for something that hasn't happened since September 2010.

The PA is demanding: before they negotiate.  So they are negotiating to negotiate.

1. Israel recognize a Palestinian state along the 67 pre-border; which is indefensible.  They say they will go along with equal territorial swaps.
2. Israel stop all construction in Judea and Samaria and East Jerusalem.

Israel is also asking that: ( I say asking and not demanding because this is most likely what the peace talk would cover. ) 

1. The Palestinians recognize Israel as the Jewish state which is what the USA has done.  Also, since it passed the UN in 1948, the UN must have had a majority to do so likewise. (Quite frankly, I don't see how Abbas can do it being the Muslim Brotherhood and Qaradawi, religious leader in Qatar, are so against this as well as Iran. It seems to me that both Hamas and Fatah are not their own man anymore.  Without it, a peace agenda is useless. There must be recognition on both sides to work.)  

The Palestinians have had 64 years to contemplate recognition of Israel.  The Palestinians were not thinking of creating a state until, sometime after 1967 when they saw that they didn't overtake this tiny country and drive it into the sea.  Taking over Israel was not going to be that easy.  Thus, the idea of their own state, which they were offered way back in 1948 and had refused with successive offers since.

Resource:  Arutz Sheva, news@israelnationalnews.com: Clinton Calls for Direct Negotiations between Israel and PA by Elad Benari
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/156323 Returning bodies, list





Thursday, May 12, 2011

Demands of Palestinians; Amazing Chutzpah!

Nadene Goldfoot
The Palestinians have refused to recognize Israel ever since its birth in 1948.  They have now given Israel the ultimatum of recognizing their future Palestinian state which sits on Israel's land from 1967 borders.  They even claim all of Jerusalem as their capital.  Their statements have not mentioned East Jerusalem as their capital, only the word, "Jerusalem." 

They plan to go to the UN in September to announce their state and have given Israel a year to recognize them.  What Chutzpah!  They refuse to continue peace talks, and Abbas has united with the present-day terrorists, Hamas,  who continue to shoot missles and mortars into Israel and they're calling the shots with ultimatums. 

All Israel has experienced from these Arabs is war.  They were attacking before Israel was created and really have never stopped.  Israel contains over a million Arabs who did not leave when Israel was created in 48 and are citizens, but the others have remained hostile and rebellious.  Israel has done more than any other country would in the name of peace by giving up part of their already teeny state to them, but it hasn't brought peace at all.  In fact, to the Arabs they must sense weakness in doing so.  Israel has wised up.  They're not going to recognize this Palestine if they are recognized by the U.N.  I think the Palestinians have never heard of one of our lessons:  Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. 

At any rate, the USA will not deal with any Palestinian government that include Hamas, which is a terrorist organization unless they change their charter, reports Hillary Clinton.  They must adopt the Quartet principals.  They first must recognize Israel's right to exist; renounce violence and respect past Palestinian-Israel agreements.   Peace talks with Fatah's Abbas didn't come to this agreement.  Fatah is agreeing now with Hamas, so I don't see this happening. 

Resource: http://blog.standforisrael.org/articles/hamas-israel-has-one-year-to-recognize-palestinian-state, from Ma'an Palestine News Agency
http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=219455 and AIPAC